I see tables that are made like this. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SAND THE DECAL IN ANY WAY. The purpose of a clear coat is to accomplish something else, some intended purpose. Also, I own a new old stock tank and 2 side covers for my model and they are done the same way. Has anyone done this? Be sure to wet sand surface where decals will be installed using a 1,000 grit sand paper. Do to the many variables of "Custom Painting" we can not guarantee the success of any paint project in anyway using our Graphics Under Clear Motorcycle Graphic Images. 2. Then wait a couple or days or a week and then color sand the clear to flatten any orange peel and remove dirt nubs. Application of decals (and attendant setting solution). High Speed Autographics / graphicsunderclear.com is not responsible for any problems during or after the Clear Coat Process. He did say however that a friend of his who rides easton wheels removed the decals by sanding though the clear coat. My clear coating so far has had mixed results and that's before the decal stage. It's been about 48+ hours, and haven't seen any reaction. Moderator of Rider's Gear and Help me Fix it. And as a plus, the stuff spreads out really well. CLEAR COATING OVER DECALS. Just be careful applying them. Forum topic by firefighterontheside: posted 09-08-2019 03:50 PM: 1390 views: 0 times favorited: 12 replies: firefighterontheside. Removing decals under clear coat. I tend to use 6 - 8 mist coats or more. Never had a problem with it. The customer will assume all risks. I'm painting my bikes next month, and I plan on putting everything under the clear. My plan is to clear coat, decal, then clear again to seal the decals in. Like you said, he doesn't recommend using clear coat over decals due to conflicting compatability issues. The industry standard method of putting clear over vinyl would be to lay a base coat, apply the vinyl, clear coat and let cure. If you DON'T put the decals under the clear on the tank and then spill gas on them, they will no longer stick, though. On Clearcoating Decals: Under normal circumstances, it is not necessary to clearcoat our decals if they were installed on a properly cleaned surface. Since we use only the best quality vinyl films (the same vinyls used by the automotive OEMs for their pinstriping and graphics), these products are NOT coming off unless you forcefully pick at them. Top clear coat of Tamiya rattle-can semi-gloss for a satiny finish. Anyone ever shoot Clear coat on top of Decals with good results? Requires a little more refining before I tackle the Bruiser. 4. • Trim excess carrier film: Some decal images have an excess of carrier film outside the image area. In some cases, I found cutting the decal out inboard of that built up coating yields a thinner edge, some I just cut right up to the color itself. If you hit metal you will need to reprime with a DTM primer before you use a waterbased paint like Aqualac or One Hit Wonder. Follow these instructions. Requires single oven. I called the factory, and they said that the decals had a clear coat on them. May 31, 2007 #5 Better still, why not make your own decal? Apply more clear as needed. Your model may have a flat finish, but you can coat decal areas with clear gloss, apply the decals, then return after they are dry and apply a clear coat with the desired sheen. I thought about making the tank and wet sanding through the clear coat to the decal and trying to peel it off. Again flash time between mists is about 10-15 minutes. That first coat needs to be really dry or you run the risk of damaging the decal. I've got a motorcycle gas tank that has the decals clear coated over. these decals actually look pretty descent. The tank I am painting looks to have factory Harley decals on it. Table with vinyl decals under epoxy « back to Designing Woodworking Projects forum. Looking at a decal under magnification you can sometimes see the clear coat over the decal sheet has a bit of built-up edge on the edge of each individual decal image. but as popeye said you can try on a test plate a see for sure. Advertisement. Wetsand the clear, reapply clear, and wetsand again. March 9, 2009. He needs to try out this Future floor stuff! No bleeding, wrinkling, curling. J. JimmyR Member. It has been a long time since I have done this and have forgotten what final clear finish to use over the decals and loco overall to seal them in. Don’t panic! On my 1977 KZ650-C1 the tank decals are under the clear coat and the side cover and tail decals are over the clear coat. 1. This is normal and will disappear after drying. If it's a painted decal it's likely the absence of a base coat in … Show Full Signature. It's under the clear, so your options are to sand it out, if it's a vinyl decal under and you don't damage the base coat respray with a good 2K clear, sand 1500->2000->3000, then 3 stage buff back to shine. I'm an automotive painter and I've done hundreds of projects that involved clearing over decals of some sort. Low temperature PSA decals – used above clear coat.Do not require any heat treatment and are applied at ambient temperature. Method 2 of 3: Applying Decals to Nails. High temperature PSA decals – can be used on temperature treated surfaces at temperature 150- 180°C, used under clear coat only.Easy to apply, suitable only for smaller designs. 1. I made one that called the guitar a "Fred Pretendocaster" and it got some good reactions. Remove any residue with WD-40, lighter fluid, glass cleaner, &c (fine steel wool, if needed). Clear coat of Tamiya rattle-can gloss. They have a very glossy appearance, so I am thinking It is probably not going to work since sanding them may jack them up. Only use high quality PPG or BASF automotive type clear coat paint. Trimming it off reduces the chances of it being visible on the model later. Put very light dry coat on decal from a foot away let that dry over night. I asked the guy about warrantee on wheels without decals. Wetsand the clear, reapply clear, and wetsand again. Install decals as shown in your order's enclosed instructions. [Then.,] sand the edge smooth with … We have not tested all clear coat type paints and we use a professional paint shop to get perfect results. Then I progress to slightly heavier coats with about half an hour flash time. I just laid it on with an airbrush straight up, with no thinning, and it went on super easy. Posted by astapleford on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:27 AM I've just finished painting and decaling a loco. I have heard that with the decals, it's important not to go too heavy with the clear coat to start with. I started using the 1500 grit to remove the last 10% of the decals, and continued with it to remove the line around the border of where the decal was. 3. Repeat until there are no more edges. Apply another coat of clear gloss to the surface with a brush. He said they warranty wheels without decals. 5 or 6 coats should suffice for regular race finish. Re: painting decals on powder coat most liquid will not hold up to powder temps and if the do you still have the problem of them causing the clear powder to lift off. Once the decal is suctioned to the kit with the softener and smooth, apply another coat of clear gloss to seal everything in and prevent damage to the decal. The thick clear coat should cover any bubbles and hide them. I like to clear over the base coat with a couple or three clear layers. you'll want to be careful not to get too aggresive and get into the color area under the old decal area. Clear coat over decals. I am in the process of building the Bistro stools for our daughter and SIL that were in the Wood Magazine about a year or so ago. 21303 posts in 2805 days. Repeat until there are no more edges. if you plan on liquid graphics i would use liquid to clear and save the heartach of haveing to start over. Clean area with automotive wax and grease remover. The industry standard method of putting clear over vinyl would be to lay a base coat, apply the vinyl, clear coat and let cure. The decals feel really thin, almost like a Mylar. Should I apply the decals over the Zero paint, then clear coat, or clear, then apply decals, then clear again? It's been a while since I worked on such a decal … On my 02, I was going along taking off the graphics on the farings, all was great, lovin how it was starting to look. home | projects | blog. Discussion Starter • #1 • Aug 4, 2008. Our decals do not need to be clear coated, but the life span will be increased significantly if you choose to clear coat. If the spot was smaller then a quarter we just spot primed with a UV curable primer from PPG. 09-23-2012, 06:00 PM. There should be plenty of layers below the decal to sand into before you hit metal, usually e-coat, prime, base and 1 clear at least. Clear coating in and of itself is nothing magical. But on the side of caution, I’ve always asked my decal guy for a few scraps of vinyl and did a test run sample with the base and clear coats I was using at the time, just to make sure that there was no adverse chemical reaction between the vinyl and paint. I am going to give it more time in the sun do a pull test after it is really cured. So adding a clear coat will generally fall under these categories: Protection– You may want to protect work already finished. John Jolley hobbyist - Port Saint John, Florida. Spray about 10-15 coats, letting each dry about 30 minutes in between. We can’t put decals under powder lacquer due to the heat, for me to put a wet 2k lacquer on the frame will take 3-4 weeks and cost a further £120. Can someone tell me the best way to remove them with ruining the underlying paint? I've owned it since new, so I know for sure that it came that way from the factory. I'm an automotive painter and I've done hundreds of projects that involved clearing over decals of some sort. If I'm missing a step (or otherwise erring) please feel free to chime in. Decals on wood and under varnish? We've had great success with urethane base type clear coats. I use a gray scotchbrite pad. I'd say after... Decals will be easier to apply on a level even surface (clear coat) than on a dull ruff one (base coat) AND in my opinion will be more authentique too, real race cars arent clear coat over the decals.... bradfordian. That way you can get the base coat sealed up within 24 hours of application like you are supposed to. 12-28-2013, 06:27 PM. Whether needed to withstand the heat of a powder clear coat after application or use on a barbeque grill, temperature is no longer an issue. yelo. ANY air bubbles will expand over time and look like shit. 2) You can also "remove decals under clear coat by heating with a hairdryer until the decal got soft, then picking at the edge, until [you can] peel the sticker off. Heat resistant decals give our customers many options for applying artwork to their products without concern for heat in the production process or later use. Your clear coat may also look foggy and transluscent white. He said the structural integrity of the wheel doesn't change by removing a decal. Allow the top coat to dry and you’re all done! I was able to remove nearly 90% of the sticker in this way, and under is a clean original factory color coat. I have clear coated vinyl decals on motorcycle tanks. For clear coating the finished project - apply very fine mist coats to build up a seal coat slowly before going anywhere near a wet coat. If there is no clear-coat over the decals then you have several options: 1) Apply heat (hair dryer, IR lamp, propane torch) and gently scrape off. The sticker will leave a lip of clearcoat around the edge where you removed it. The chairs will be used in a protected area and not exposed to the weather full time. 340 Posts . I scuffed the coat with the gray Scotchbrite, then applied my production clear and let it sit. I need to re-Clear the tank since It is looking shabby, But want to keep the Decals intact. 09-08-2019 03:50 PM . 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